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Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Hermeneutics: A Salvation Matter!? Reflecting on Thomas B. Warren

Posted on 5:08 PM by Unknown

As I type these words I am sitting at a table at Starbucks sipping on an iced double shot hazelnut latte. I'm here with a few books and my manuscript for my K. C. Moser book. Let me share some thoughts ... unrefined as they are:

I grew up singing lyrics penned by John Fawcett, "How precious is the Book divine, By inspiration given! Bright as a lamp its precepts shine, To guide my soul to heaven." In singing these words we intended to affirm our commitment to the Bible as the written word of God and its essential importance in the life of the Church. We were, and are, a "people of the book." We, the faith progeny of Barton Stone and Alexander Campbell, have rhetorically "amened" Chillingworth as he quipped "The Bible, the Bible alone, the religion of Protestants." Thus in our rhetoric we affirmed two basic core tenets of our identity: 1) the sufficiency of scripture and 2) the perspicuity or clarity of scripture. These notions so ingrained into our collective Stone-Campbell DNA are often heard as "all I need is the Bible." "We don't interpret the Bible, we just obey it," "It means what it says and says what it means." Or some other such slogan ... and we have all used them at one point or another.

Though we have, at times, vociferously attacked any notion that we "interpret" the Bible and that a disciple needs any sort of spiritual help outside of the Bible ... I want to pose the question "Is that a polemical mask? a Ploy?" Do we hide a secret within our church closet the truth that we do in fact not only believe we MUST interpret the Bible but that it must be interpreted in a SPECIFIC and PARTICULAR way to arrive at already believed propositions (i.e. doctrinal statements)? I believe the only answer to this question is in the affirmative. Our most conservative scholars have taught us that simply reading and believing the Bible is not enough rather the run of the mill disciple must be educated to a certain way of interpretation for her soul depends upon it.

I draw upon Thomas B. Warren's "When is an 'Example' Binding? as a classic example. Warren was a great and classic polemicist in the last half of the 20th century. He challenged atheists like Anthony Flew as well as those within his own circle of fellowship. "When is an 'Example' Binding?" was first published in 1975 and remains a critical textbook among many today. My first encounter with the book was in a class called "Establishing Biblical Authority" with Kippy Myers, now a professor at Freed Hardeman University. "When is an 'Example'" is a difficult book to read at best but if we get beyond Warren's writing style it is fascinating in its claims.

For Warren a reader of the Bible begins with a philosophy of some sort. He critiques three (Empiricism, Romanticism, and Idealism, pp 11-13). "Philosophy leads theology around by the nose" he states (p. 10). It is "logic," however, that is lens through which we are to read the scriptures. The kind of logic we can use for biblical interpretation is found in, among other places, Logic, An Introduction by Lionel Ruby (a book I was required to read in school). "The Bible is the most logical book which has ever been written" (p. 9).

Warren exerts tremendous mental energy through a series of exercises that make scriptural interpretation as methodical and (seemingly) precise as a Calculus textbook does with mathematics. The underlying cause for this is that hermeneutics is, when all is said and done, actually a salvation issue. This is stated explicitly (and I did not catch this for many years).

"The importance of this problem is seen in the following facts: 1) Only God's truth (the Bible) can free men from sin (John 8:32), 2) one must learn not only what the Bible SAYS but also what it MEANS."

There are a number of critical problems here that call out for attention. For starters the Scriptures do not teach that the "Bible" sets humans free from sin and the citation of John 8.32 does not support such a claim. The "truth" that sets us free in the Gospel of John is the Messiah himself not the Bible and certainly not the Bible as Protestants understand the term. "Truth" is a Person "I AM ... THE Truth" (John 14.6). But for our purposes note that Warren makes it crystal clear that the MEANING of the Scripture is NOT self-evident but must be interpreted according to his understanding of logic. This becomes even clearer as we read ...

"It is important for each person to learn as much of what the Bible SAYS as he possibly can, but it is conceivable that one might MEMORIZE the entire Bible itself and NOT understand what it MEANS. One must learn not only what the Bible SAYS but ALSO how the various statements ... relate to one another" (pp. 7-8)

We all agree with Warren we need to have a "big picture" view of Scripture. Yet for our purposes here we need to see that interpretation is declared essential. The laser becomes more focused ...

"Even if one gained knowledge of that God is and that the Bible is His word, he still COULD NOT BE SAVED [my emphasis] by such knowledge if he did not know how to properly INTERPRET the Bible" (pp. 8-9). (For similar statements on the necessity of interpretation to get the real meaning of Scripture see pp. 20, 121, etc) This is far removed from "it means what it says and says what it means!"

Hermeneutics is a salvation issue! One does not simply learn about God through the Bible. Indeed we may learn all that and still could not be saved. Salvation hinges on interpretation. Thus the importance, and urgency, of the matter for Warren. The issue of MEANING is important for two reasons as we work our way through Warren's thoughts:

1) the Bible can, and does, mean MORE than what it actually says for a person living today

2) the Bible can, and does, mean LESS (and even the OPPOSITE) of what it actually says

I'm using my own words here but that is the "basic thesis of the book" a phrase that pops up repeatedly in the book. One must accept this "basic thesis" or be in danger of missing the true meaning of scripture and endangering the soul. Through the lens of logic we can reduce the the biblical materials to a series of Propositions and arrive at the actual "word of God" which may be, btw, MORE than the Bible claims or LESS depending on issue and circumstance.

Through the proper use of logic, according to Warren, faithful Christians can actually construct a reading that directly and explicitly contradicts the actual words of the text. In fact to DO what the text says is "sin" and to do the opposite is to "obey" God's revealed will. First Corinthians 14.39-40 is one of Warren's examples. It reads,

"Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues; yet everything should be done in a fitting fashion."

A proper understanding of the meaning of this text is a matter of salvation for Warren. I want to point out two important (to me) points about the meaning of this text as Warren understands it. First that the conclusion which he arrives at will be agreed with, he says, IF we recognize "the truthfulness of and (b) by acting in harmony with the basic thesis of this book" (p. 54f). So unless one agrees and endorses Warren's approach to LOGIC one will never actually understand the MEANING of the text for you and me. Second, when the cards are down it is not logic that determines the meaning of this text for us but rather rejection theologically unacceptable conclusions. "If one rejects the basic thesis of this book, THEN HE HAS NO WAY OF SHOWING THAT THE COMMANDS IN VERSE 39 ARE NOT BINDING ..." (p.55, my emphasis). Warren has to show that v.39 is not binding because if he doesn't he cannot tell folks not to speak in tongues! Or to not to want to prophesy! His logic is driven by polemics and not by either the immediate context or the remote context (his lingo).

A faithful Christian, indeed possibly a Christian period, must forbid speaking in tongues and cannot be eager to prophesy. So by accepting the logic of Warren we learn that we must disobey what the apostle actually said and in so doing we will save our souls. The text MEANS nothing like what it appears to mean:

"[R]ather than being under obligation not to forbid men to 'speak in tongues' ... Christians living today ARE under obligation to teach others it is wrong either to attempt to or to claim to be able to 'speak in tongues.' This is the case because the total evidence of the Bible warrants this deduction." (p. 55).

I wonder what Warren would say if some one used the same "logic" for the passage just a few verses away in 14.34? Would not Thomas' allies say such a person did not believe in the "authority of the Bible?"

First Corinthians 14 is not the only place where it is clear that the fear of an "unacceptable" conclusion drives the Warren's hermeneutic and not the biblical text or even logic. Later he soundly rejects the notion that only explicit commands are binding on humans because "if this doctrine were true, it follows that no one could rightly say, 'You must not use instrumental music in the worship of God; it is sinful to do so" (p. 100). Warren has already at that conclusion (just as he did regarding 1 C 14.39) and any approach that calls the CONCLUSION into question is to be rejected out of hand. Rather we "must" accept the basic premise of the book and THEN the conclusions will follow ... the ONLY acceptable conclusions. Conclusions already believed. Alister McGrath opined "It is important to appreciate that Protestant readings of the Bible are often shaped by past controversies" (Christianity's Dangerous Idea: The Protestant Revolution, p.204). The same can be said here. Warren has positions that are arrived at not by biblical exegesis but were hammered out in a polemical arena. Within the construct of Thomas B Warren correct biblical interpretation is simply another rung on the ladder we erect to heaven. It is, in my view, works salvation. If we misinterpret 1 C 14.39 it will cost us our salvation. This approach, it seems to me, breeds arrogance. It breeds self reliance. It all but denies the role of sin in our human apprehension of truth. It multiplies division and schism exponentially. This is serious stuff.

I believe in the Bible and ALL of the Bible. I believe the Bible is "logical" but certainly it is not a book of logic. It has a rhyme, it has a reason, it has a flow, it has an organic unity and it has a Story. I believe Scripture must be wrestled with and digested and prayed over and consumed for the life of the disciple and the Gathered People of God.

I do not believe the Bible is the Savior. The Crucified and Risen Messiah is. People had faith in him and lived in fellowship with him and each other long before there was something like our present Protestant Bibles. I believe God has given us Scripture to nourish us as we walk with him ... so I sing "give me the Bible" and laud the excellencies of the written Word as it points me to the Living Word who dwells with his people to this very day. I hope to offer another post that may have some helpful pointers to a more theologically healthy hermeneutic.

My comments on Brother Warren's book should not in ANY way be understood as an attack on him. I value his efforts to serve the Lord and thank God for his courage and faithfulness. His approach to the issue of hermeneutics is where I demur from him.

I am sorry for the long absence in my blogging. I promise to be more faithful with it in the future.
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Saturday, May 30, 2009

Twilight Thoughts of Alexander Campbell: An Interview

Posted on 10:23 AM by Unknown
In the Twilight Years of Alexander Campbell he lectured and preached extensively to the Bethany College community. By this time Alexander Campbell was a saintly old gentleman and a seasoned reflective student of Scripture. For those who know only Campbell's "Sermon on the Law" might be surprised a large chunk of his hermeneutical enterprise was focused on the Pentateuch. In 1859 and 1860 his lectures were recorded and later published after the Civil War by W. T. Moore as Familiar Lectures on the Pentateuch. Also recorded in this same period were extensive extracts from his sermons. What follows is an imaginary interview with the old Reformer ... I will refer to quotations by Extract numbers as printed in Familiar Lectures ...

Elder Campbell the reformation you promote has exalted the Bible. Can you share your mature thoughts on that old religious tome?

"The Bible is a perfect chart for the entire voyage of life. Beyond that it has no value. It is not adapted to man in Heaven or Hell." (# 21). But the "vast deal of Bible reading, in these latter days [is] for the purpose of enabling men to stand erect upon a particular point of faith, peculiar to themselves ... than with obtaining a clear and unbiased understanding and truthful appreciation of the intent and meaning of Holy Writ" (# 9).

Elder Campbell what kind of book is the Bible?
"[T]he Holy Scriptures have every form of expression. We have not only poetry and prose, precepts, promises and threats; but all various forms and usages of human speech ... It is very proper that this should be so. For this book is addressed to man, by Him who alone comprehends him in his relations to his fellow man and to his Creator ... It is worthy of observation, that in the Bible as addressed to man, God does not deal in abstractions." (#11)

Do you have a favorite part of Scripture or is there any "more important" than other parts?
"No man has ever suggested an improvement to the parables of the Saviour ... they are the wisest exhibitions of literature in the world." (# LXXX). However "among the most important ecclesiastical documents are the two oracles, which we sometimes denominate the kernel of Christianity - the Epistles of Paul to the Romans and to the Hebrews. They contain the most comprehensive and complete exposition of all that enters into Christian faith and worship, ever spoken or written." (# LXXXV)

Elder Campbell, in our day Christians have retreated from the physicality of the world. Do you have any mature thoughts on Creation and its destiny?

Absolutely! "The principles of creation are: First, goodness, the actuating: Second, wisdom, the directing: third, power, the executive principle" (# 8). The order here is important. "The universe itself is the offspring of God's love. It was not created simply because he had the wisdom and power to do it. The element of love entered into the intention, characterized the execution, and approved the completion of his labors." (# 18). Its all about God's love!

Some have been influenced by the materialism of the Enlightenment and have abandoned biblical teaching. You see "the impression prevails in many minds that the earth is to be annihilated. Such is not our belief. There is a vast difference between annihilation and change ... This earth will will unquestionably be burned, yet through the process of variation and reconstruction of its elements, God will fashion the earth and heavens anew, and fill them with tenants to glorify His name forever" (# 13; cf #LXVI). The victory of the Messiah goes as far as the curse is found.

One final question Elder Campbell, what kind of God do you worship?

"I worship a great God and a little God...He is so large that he fills the universe with his presence, and so small that he dwells in my heart. [A]nd if the love of God fills the heart of man, he must be happy." (# XCVII)

Thank you for the courtesy of the interview Elder Campbell. Your thoughts certainly exhibit years of study and worship. Thank you for sharing them with us ... we will have to reflect on them ourselves.
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Wednesday, May 27, 2009

God is enough

Posted on 4:59 PM by Unknown

Been reflecting on Psalm 73 for days now ... i found this incredible video and had to share it ...

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Slow Fade - Casting Crowns - Fireproof

Posted on 1:11 AM by Unknown

Great Song ... Great Message

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N.T. Wright: Postmodern Movement 2

Posted on 12:23 AM by Unknown

This is part of a larger interview of N.T. Wright at the Pastors Retreat of the Los Ranchos Presbytery held in Malibu CA. It is worth listening too
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Thursday, May 14, 2009

Three Crises: An Evening Chat ... World, Church, Life

Posted on 4:12 PM by Unknown
Its the late evening here in the desert ... as I write this I am on the back porch, laptop and I looking up at the starry sky ... makes me ask how reflective are we? How introspective can we be? How honest can we be with ourselves and with others? Has anyone else noticed? Or am I just so delusional that I have failed to have eyes and ears to truly see and hear? Let me tell you what I see and then you tell me what you see.



I am only forty years old and the world I live in has drastically changed in my own lifetime. It seems to me that the world is in the throes of an identity crises. We are moving (with more velocity daily) from a Euro-American centric world to an Asian one. The rate of change is intimidating and mind numbingly immense. My barely two hundred year old non-denomination denomination is locked in a life and death mid-life crises that mirrors the chaos of the wider cultural earthquake. And to make matters worse I, Bobby Valentine, am also in the middle of an identity crises! A thread that runs through all of these crises is a poltergeist comically named "Postmodernism." It is both the engine that drives SOME of the tremors and a result of the aftershocks from these cracks in the "Modern" world.



I grew up believing and being comfortable with a certain perspective of the world. This, whether I like it or not and no matter how patriotic one may be, is changing and will never be the same again. Crises! My non-denomination denomination has been trying to come to terms with itself for nearly the length of my life and the old "identity" markers have caved because they were built upon sand of Modernity and the inevitable storm has seen them crash and wash away. Crises! My personal identity was wrapped up so much in being a husband and even Dad that I never stopped to consider how unsure a foundation that really is. Storm came: Divorce from hell. Every other weekend dad. Illusions shattered. Crises!!!!



The crises around us are not a small dust devil but rather a world wide Hurricane Katrina that will alter the maps of the world, the maps of our religious selves and our "personal" life as well. The crises of the surrounding world yanked my head out of the sand when the Grim Reaper knocked on my door ...



For the last year and a half I have been trying to "see" me, see my church, and see my world as it really is. I am not so sure I have done that successfully. I was already looking before the Reaper arrived but he made me do some serious soul searching in all the above areas. To find out who "I" really am I talked to a counselor, cried, cussed, lamented ... and more than any other time in my life I became Israel! He who struggles with God!! God made me look in the mirror and ask tough questions of my world, of my non-denomination denomination, and my family. The most fundamental question of all was "WHO are you Bobby V?"



To answer the question God sent me to his Word. He asked me to listen. He asked me to be silent. He asked me to kneel. He asked me to "give IT up" ... whatever "it" is. He drove me, yes DROVE me, into the Word. I began to realize that the Word is not simply about or even primarily about elders, deacons, and names on a building. The Story actually has surprisingly little interest in this kind of stuff. God challenged me to hear IN his written word his Word for my world, my church, and my life.



I saw, in the written word, that David lived out the Word in a way that was true and yet different than Moses. That the early church revered the written word but sought how to hear the word to them in their own day. I recalled reading in the written word where Paul was accused of seeking popularity for preaching a "law free" gospel (cf Gal 1.10). Sometimes being true to the written Word in our own day causes us to look like "liberal" to those who only see but never understand (meditate on Matthew 12.1-14 and 13.13-15).



For a year and a half I have munched on Scripture like I have never before. Psalms is my daily companion. The Gospels pull me in in a way that I just did not understand at one time. My life has a rhythm that was not there once before. The Story of God in scripture and being with him in worship have been God's tool of giving me eyes to see what I could not before ... and frankly would have preferred not too!!



I have learned that is it is ok to embrace a truly resident alien point of view. This alleviates the stress of the Asian shift in the balance of power in the world. I've learned it is ok to pledge allegiance to the kingdom of God regardless of the ramifications. I have learned that my non-denomination denomination has been shaped by the "myth" of Modernity rather than sola scriptura as we have claimed. Indeed I have come to believe that my task is to help the church live with in the counter world envisioned by the written world in the power of the Living Word. And I have learned that my own identity is not in a marriage, fatherhood or anything else but hidden in the Messiah ... which is why I began to wear a new ring ... a black ring with a crown of thorns woven on it.



Our world is changing and drastically so. But we have safety and refuge within God's global kingdom. Our church is changing and it will not look like it did in AD 50; AD 1000; AD 1878; AD 1906 or even AD 1970. But Jesus is training us to seek out "old treasures" as well as "new (meditate on Matthew 13.52). And my own life will never again be like it was prior to December 16, 2007 ... never! Just like the world will not go back. The church can't go back even if some have illusions that they can. We see to weather the crises by being saturated with God's Story and shaped by it that we can live our faithfully and truthfully in our own day and our own time the Gospel of Christ crucified and the reign of God over all.



Well I have rambled long enough. I invite you to watch the video below. It will help us see just how our world is changing ... and ask the question from a kingdom standpoint: What does it all mean?





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Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Train - Calling All Angels

Posted on 3:53 PM by Unknown

One of my favs for the last year and a half ...

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